The real silent Hill Experience




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DERFUZHWAR

Well, coinciding with the release of SHAZAM, Yamaoka told the guys at originalsoundversion.com that he was leaving Konami after working for them for 16 years. Nobody really knows anything about this situation yet, but many are hoping that this won't stop him from working on any future Silent Hill installments.


ROSSETER

If he does work on the series again, he certainly won't be acting as producer anymore. So, if there is another Silent Hill game coming, all ties to the original team have been completely severed. Not that it'll make much of a difference.


DERFUZHWAR

No.
ROSSETER

A lot of people think that without Akira Yamaoka there can be no Silent Hill. But, there hasn't been a Silent Hill game since 2004, so it's clear that Yamaoka's influence has been negligible.

THE FUTURE


DERFUZHWAR

So, what's the next step for the series?


ROSSETER

I don't know. What is it?


DERFUZHWAR

No! There shouldn't be a "next step". Fans of any great series usually have a hard time letting go, but that's what needs to be done. Silent Hill was a great story, and now it's over.
ROSSETER

Over.
DERFUZHWAR

Our appreciation doesn't have to stop; we can still go back and play these games at any time we want. They are amazing! But, let's show game developers that we're ready for the next big game series and not just more recycled ideas.


ROSSETER

Yes. Why can't we just leave good things alone? It's like if I decided I was going to paint a Van Gough painting, but I'm going to do it "in the style of Van Gough". So, I paint something that I think Van Gough would have painted and then I say, "Look, I'm continuing Van Gough's work." I'd be laughed out of the building.


And, if you're trying to say, "SHAZAM is a parallel story, and it fits into the canon of Silent Hill because Konami publishes it, and they have the authority to decide what's canon," (which, by the way, is a real argument we found online somewhere) then what you're saying is that I can just go and reshoot the original three Star Wars movies and completely change the storyline to how I think it should go, but I say, "its a parallel story and it goes alongside the Star Wars films." And if I get Lucasfilm to publish that movie, then it's canon. Right? Because they published it, so it's got to be canon. They have the authority, right? Star Wars fans would throw a fit. A fit! Their hair would explode.
Rosseter is exasperated and demands that DerFuzhwar give him refreshment. Fuzh pours Rosseter a glass of grape soda, which he drinks.
Now it's time to end this.

THE END (?)


DERFUZHWAR

Please note, we have not stated anything that we did not provide evidence for. We have proven sufficiently that any Silent Hill publication not made by Team Silent themselves is at a severe risk of missing the point and butchering the plot completely. For that reason, we cannot take any media outside of Silent Hill 1-4 seriously. The original staff is no longer involved, and without Team Silent, it's really just a bunch of games and movies trying to be Silent Hill; they're all copies and spin-offs.


ROSSETER

The purpose of this video was to explain once and for all what the overall story of Silent Hill is, to show what made Silent Hill 1-4 the games that they are, and to show why new Silent Hill related material could never convey the same ideas as the core series. We're not telling you not to like this stuff! You can like it all you want, but don't accept it as Silent Hill. These people have taken away everything that was Silent Hill!


And there is nothing left...

13: QUESTIONS UNANSWERED
ROSSETER

Hey, everyone! Rosseter and Fuzh here. We are really happy with the response to The REAL Silent Hill Experience. We didn't realize it was going to get so incredibly big. Apparently it has gotten so big that some of the big shots over at Konami have been watching it. Tomm Hulett, the producer of Shattered Memories, had this to say:


"Devin [Shatsky] and I are both impressed by the production values on display in these videos. Clearly a lot of time was spent planning and then creating this documentary...

...(For the record, I do agree that Alessa's portrayal in those (as evil rather than a victim trying to fix things) is inconsistent.)"

- Tomm Hulett
ROSSETER

Which is great. Lots of negative feedback too, though. The way some people are talking, you'd think we ruined their friggin' lives. So that's cool. We made this follow-up video as a thanks for all of the feedback, and also to answer questions and clarify our statements. So, first question.


DERFUZHWAR

Many people were asking us where we got the idea that Eddie shot a football coach.


ROSSETER

The truth is, it doesn't matter who we said he shot. There were going to be arguments anyway, right? The fact is, he shot someone that had some relation to football, and the speech he gives shortly before this sounds like someone talking down to him, so the first thing that popped into our heads was "coach".


DERFUZHWAR

When you first meet Eddie, he is in a bathroom across the hall from a room filled with football memorabilia and angry graffiti, which hints at a hatred toward anyone that has anything to do with football in general. The only reason we can come up with for that is that he tried to play, but was rejected.


ROSSETER

You know, the dog he shot wasn't actually a dog; it was the team mascot. He wanted to wear the costume. He was jealous of the guy because he got to wear the costume and hide inside of it.


DERFUZHWAR

And, did you know it's not really American football? it's European football. You know, soccer? He's big and huge, so he can block the balls better.
ROSSETER

He's got the backwards hat and the striped shirt... Blonde hair? I mean come on, this stuff is so obvious! He's eating pizza in the bowling alley...


DERFUZHWAR

A couple of people still think Pyramid Head is not specific to James because Walter Sullivan was quoted shouting:


"'He's trying to kill me. He's trying to punish me. The monster... the red devil. Forgive me. I did it, but it wasn't me!'."

- Walter Sullivan


ROSSETER

In Silent Hill 2 this is really meant as foreshadowing the Pyramid Head arrival. But, when Silent Hill 4 was made, the explanation was changed to have Walter referencing his first victim, Jimmy Stone, who's nickname was the "Red Devil" because he was an executioner for the cult of Silent Hill 4. We will also point out that the book in Silent Hill 2, the Crimson Tome, refers to the cult's god as the "Crimson One". This could also be an explanation.


DERFUZHWAR

People are a little confused why we say all the strange happenings in Silent Hill are happening in no other than the real world. Tomm Hulett, the producer of the new games, was one of them:


"...if Alessa triggered the darkness of Silent Hill (creating monsters for SH2, etc.) in the singular 'real world dimension' – how did James and Mary have a pleasant vacation stay there years later?"

- Tomm Hulett


ROSSETER

Tomm, thanks for asking, but we did not say that Alessa was the direct cause of the manifestations. You need to go back and watch Part 11a again, where we said that the spiritual power surrounding the town is the cause of the manifestations, and that Alessa is what caused the spiritual power to become evil and related to the God. As for the manifestations happening in the real world, we refer you to Silent Hill 1:


"Was I dreaming?"
"Was that another dream?"
"This is not a dream!"
"Rather than shifting from reality to a nightmare, this is more like reality becoming a nightmare."
"... it's being invaded by the Otherworld."

- Harry Mason


And what is the Otherworld, Harry?
"By a world of someone's nightmarish delusions come to life..."

- Harry Mason


DERFUZHWAR

When you think about what the Silent Hill series is really about — a spiritual power tainted by a crazy demon cult — then it's easier to see that the spiritual power is acting on the physical world, bringing to life pieces of dreams and thoughts. And your dreams and thoughts are not another dimension. When the power of the demon takes hold, crazy, crazy stuff happens because time and space have no meaning.


ROSSETER

If you don't agree, then that's fine. It's parallel universes... or whatever...


DERFUZHWAR

People wanted to know how we got the idea that Samael is the god the cult initially worshiped, but we said the god presumably was Samael because at that point in the game that is what the player is lead to believe.


ROSSETER (VO)

The password is "Presumably"...


ROSSETER

We never refer to the cult's god as Samael ever again in the video. But if you look up who Samael is, it's not such a stretch to believe that the cult could have at one time worshiped him. In Talmudic lore he is known as the accuser, seducer, and destroyer. The spiritual power was tainted to become related to the cult's god, so it makes sense because James meets all three (Angela, who is the "accuser", Maria, who is the "seducer", and Eddie/Pyramid Head, who is the "destroyer"). That's not what we're saying, but it works, doesn't it? Something to consider...


DERFUZHWAR

The most common complaint that we get is doubt about the validity of our statements that the fire in the Gillespie house was an accident based on a certain memo that details a boiler explosion. That is a legitimate concern considering that it challenges the universal belief that the cult set fire to the house and left Alessa to burn. When we discussed this in Part 4, we said:


"If you go by what you learn in just the first game, there are many pieces of evidence to support that the fire was an accident. The most pertinent example would be a memo that is not available in either the North American or Japanese releases of the game. The memo was either inserted later or a faulty piece of code was fixed to enable it for the European release, which would indicate the importance of the memo, otherwise why bother?"

- TRSHE, Part 4


ROSSETER

Well, we're not ashamed to admit it; we made a mistake... As it turns out, the boiler explosion memo is in the Japanese release. In both the European and Japanese releases, the "7 year old newspaper clipping" can be found on the third floor of Nowhere after meeting certain conditions. As it turns out, it is the article that has been clipped out of the newspaper in the front office. Ever wonder where that article was? Now you know.


DERFUZHWAR

This leads us to believe that there was a coding mistake made on the North American version of Silent Hill because this memo is not readable even after meeting the special conditions, and yet the newspaper still hints at the article's existence.


ROSSETER

The #1 argument people make against this evidence is that it is contradicted in the Silent Hill Koushiki Guidebook Kanzenban (or, "Silent Hill Official Guidebook Complete"), and also in Silent Hill: Origins. Now, we fully intended to use the Konami guides in this video, but after discovering the truth about what was written in the Bradygames Official Silent Hill 3 Strategy Guide, published by Konami, it was apparent that we could not accept any information from such guides at face value.


DERFUZHWAR

We wonder if the information in the Bradygames guide, written by Dan Birlew, is accurate because it contains similarities with his other erroneous guide online, written under the alias President Evil (you can find this guide on GameFAQs.com). When comparing the guides side-by-side, the inaccuracies are apparent:


"Dahlia and the cult performed a ritual to summon their dark God Samael into material form...

...But the ceremony only conjured a child that contained half the soul of their dark god, and so it only remained dormant within the child. That child was Alessa."

- Dan Birlew (as President Evil)
"Through magical conjuration, a fanatical sect within The Order lead by Dahlia Gillespie created a child named Alessa. Within this child was their God in an embryonic form, waiting for the right time and the proper age of the child so that it might be conceived."

- Dan Birlew (Bradygames)


"So the cult locked her in her bedroom, and set fire to Dahlia's house."

- Dan Birlew (as President Evil)


"[Dahlia] locked Alessa in her room and set the house on fire."

- Dan Birlew (Bradygames)

"For seven years, the cult and Dahlia tried fruitlessly to teach the stubborn child to tap into the power she carried, and to come to terms with her true purpose for living."

- Dan Birlew (as President Evil)

"There are many instances when Heather expresses in her thoughts that Alessa was once a pious young girl devoted to the theology of The Order and to carrying out her purpose in existing. That is the impression of Alessa that Claudia gained as well, when the two were children. However, at some point Alessa's thoughts must have secretly turned against the cult."

- Dan Birlew (Bradygames)
DERFUZHWAR

Later in the BradyGames guide, Dan Birlew contradicts himself.


"Alessa was 'sharing' her pain with the town of Silent Hill in a fit of horrific vengeance."
"The young woman attempted to suppress the evil within her by creating the Seal of Metatron everywhere she went. Alessa was trying to stave off the birth of the God, although the monster within was now so powerful that it was transforming the town."

- Dan Birlew


ROSSETER

So which is it? Was Alessa spreading the nightmare or was she trying to stave off the nightmare that the god was spreading? Which is it, same guide?


DERFUZHWAR

He also gets Douglas Cartland's last name wrong, calling him "Douglas Cartwright" twice.


When asked about the writing of the guide by members of Helldescent.com, he stated:
"I wrote up a plot guide as usual and submitted it with the rest of my text. While I'm not sure what person exactly read through the guide, employees at Konami Japan did indeed read through the entire text and make corrections. That includes the plot guide, which I remember came back with heavy edits and even a few requests for re-writes. They made a few points a lot more vague than I would have liked, but I was still happy to finally have it be a part of the guide."
"...they did indeed review the guide and approve everything that was said therein. They deleted some of the things I said, but I believe that was to make the interpretation more correct, not to keep things hidden. My only source for the information I put into the plot guides came from the games themselves. And yes, Konami made the final edits to the guide, with the exceptions of a few things I was asked to re-write in order to meet approval. But in those cases, I'm always told how I'm wrong if I'm wrong, so the printed version is right."

- Dan Birlew


ROSSETER

Originally we thought that Silent Hill: Origins appeared to be following Dan Birlew's plot analysis closely, since a few of the details such as the nature of the house fire and the multiple rituals from the President Evil guide made it into the game.


DERFUZHWAR

But, Tomm Hulett says this:


"Konami has never used unofficial content as source material for any games."

- Tomm Hulett


ROSSETER

Now we are more confused than ever, because Konami is apparently approving these inaccuracies. And this still doesn't explain why Origins is so similar to the President Evil guide. We don't know who is listening to whom, but we do know that no one is listening to Silent Hill 1.


So when making the video, we decided that any evidence taken from an "official" source would have to be from a member of the creative team or validated by a quote from a member of the creative team. A statement would be made, and then someone from the team would elaborate. Now that we've established again the rules that we followed during production of the video, let us look at the guide that apparently contradicts us, the "ilent Hill Official Guidebook Complete — specifically, the Q&A session featured within.
DERFUZHWAR

The first thing we want to point out is that the guide's author is unknown. Who wrote it? Probably a third party, in the way that Dan Birlew is a third party. It is unlike any interview in the way that there are no actual quotes or confirmations from Team Silent members. Who is asking the questions, and who is answering? Probably the author asking on the reader's behalf.


ROSSETER

The next thing to point out is that people are not actually reading the Official Guidebook, but a translation of it. Now, we're not calling into question the validity of the translation. There are plenty of translation notes to indicate that the person that did it knew what they were talking about. That being said, the site says that the translation was "checked and revised" by somebody else, and there is a list of others who also made corrections. That doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong, but it's something to consider. Something else to consider is that the site says "Koshiki", K-O-shiki, while the book says "Koushiki", with an elongated "ou" sound, so in romaji would be K-O-U-shiki.


DERFUZHWAR

The following are passages from the Q&A:


"...seven years ago, Dahlia performed the technique to bring about the descent of the cult's god using Alessa in the cellar of her own house. Although it seems the cult has a place they use for rituals, Dahlia was confident that she would be able to summon the malevolent deity if Alessa was the surrogate mother; therefore, as it was not necessary to choose a location, she impulsively carried out the ritual in her own basement."

- Author unknown


ROSSETER

Not only does this confirm things we have said in the video, but directly contradicts Origins' ritual that took place on the second floor of the house.


"The ritual process involved a great deal of fire..."

- Author unknown


All that's saying is that the ritual process "involved fire". It does not say that it required Alessa to be burned as a part of the ritual.
"... which consequently escalated into a conflagration. Incidentally, there is information in the game about 'six houses that burned down in the business district,' but the actual site of the fire can't be located on the business district map. It seems the houses were completely torn down during those seven years."

- Author unknown


This directly confirms information gathered from the boiler explosion memo about the accidental fire.
"The method Dahlia used to bring about the descent of the cult's god had nearly succeeded with Alessa as the surrogate mother, but Alessa quickly let part of her soul escape and the technique was not completely successful."

- Author unknown


ROSSETER

This supports our evidence from Silent Hill 1 that says that Alessa split her soul during the accidental fire, and again contradicts Origins in which the soul split happens during a second ritual.


"The "other church" is a reproduction of the one that was originally in Dahlia's home, where she used it for daily worship...

...The reason it appears in the final stage of the game is that Alessa retained the memory of having been made to worship at the altar in her house as a young girl."

- Author unknown
We just threw that last one in there because we highly doubt that Dahlia had an Egyptian tomb in the back of her house...
DERFUZHWAR

People have also stated that the "Lost Memories" part of the Silent Hill 3 Official Perfect Capture Guide contradicts us by using this passage:


"Alessa, who received extensive burns as a result of the ritual that brought about the descent of God..."

- Lost Memories


ROSSETER

... due to a boiler explosion. Again, does not contradict us.


"...finds her other self in order to escape from her eternal suffering and, because of God's revival, attempts to destroy herself. However, Dahlia uses Harry to prevent her from carrying out her plans."

- Lost Memories


And the rest of the quote confirms our statements about Alessa's intentions.
There is an interview in the book with six members of Team Silent; Hiroyuki Owaku, Masahiro Ito, Akira Yamaoka, Shingo Yuri (those are the big four), and then two programmers, Norihito Hatakeda and Yuki Mizuochi:
"Asked whether he feels that he has a complete grasp of what happens in the Silent Hill games, Yamaoka says he wonders if anyone besides Owaku understands it all completely..."

- Lost Memories


And what did Hiroyuki Owaku write?
DERFUZHWAR

Boiler explosion.


ROSSETER

Boiler explosion.


DERFUZHWAR

The last thing people are saying we got wrong was that the Good+ ending was the real ending. In the Good ending Cybil dies, and in the Good+ ending, Cybil survives and escapes with you.


ROSSETER

One of the reasons that they say we're wrong is because of a statement Homecoming's Deputy Wheeler makes about a police officer that disappeared while on a case in Silent Hill. But, Homecoming is Homecoming, so what are you gonna do?


DERFUZHWAR

Another reason is that Cybil does not appear in Silent Hill 3. But, why would she? Heather and Harry went into hiding from the cult, and Cybil has a job and life in Brahms. Did you think they were gonna get married? They barely even know each other.


ROSSETER

Cybil doesn't even do anything to help Harry, and actually ends up becoming a liability by getting possessed and attacking him. The only reason she's really there is so that Harry has some way of working out what's going on without talking to himself the whole game. So at the end, she's probably like, "Cool baby! ... Okay, bye!"


DERFUZHWAR

A third reason is a quote in the Official Guidebook that says the Good ending is the "orthodox" ending.


ROSSETER

Well, if you're in the habit of following anything Konami puts its name on, then guess what? The Official Japanese Silent Hill novelization follows the Good+ ending.


DERFUZHWAR

In Lost Memories, Owaku is quoted:


"Cybil is not involved with Silent Hill 3. What happens to her afterwards is left to players' imaginations."

- Hiroyuki Owaku
ROSSETER

So from that, we took it that it could be either the Good or Good+ ending. We chose Good+ because in Silent Hill the more work you put in the better the ending you get. Little to no work gets you one of the Bad endings. The Good+ ending requires the most work to achieve, and so is the most logical choice. We should also note that the Good+ ending requires Harry to use aglaophotis on Cybil, and the Silent Hill Play Novel reasons that this is how Harry learns of its use, leading to his gift to Heather in Silent Hill 3.


DERFUZHWAR

Lastly, people want to know what we think of the new Silent Hill game and movie coming out next year.


ROSSETER

As for the movie, it's supposed to be a continuation of the plot of the last movie, but then also follow the story of Silent Hill 3... which is weird because Rose and Sharon can't really go into hiding from the cult because they're stuck in the Twilight Zone... and people are saying they're supposed to be dead and in purgatory... Have fun working that one out!

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