Orders & Observations Conference Call 28-October-2010 Attendees




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Orders & Observations Conference Call

28-October-2010
Attendees:

Name

Organization

Ron van Duyne

CDC

Margaret Dittloff

The CBORD Group

Lynn Laakso

HL7


Rob Savage

NGC / CDC

Hans Buitendijk

Siemens Healthcare

Austin Kreisler

SAIC / CDC

Marc Koehn




Brian Pech

Kaiser Permanente

Elaine Ayres

NIH

Patrick Loyd

GP Informatics

Rob Hausam

Onto

Rich Reed

Simplified Software Devlopment

Ed Heierman

Abbott















Note Takers: Hans Buitendijk
Agenda/Minutes:

  • Meeting Minutes Approval

    • WGM Meeting Minutes Review – 5-8-Oct-2010

      • Motion to accept. Patrick, Austin.

        • Against: 0; Abstain: 1; In Favor: 11

    • Conf Call Meeting Minutes – 21-Oct-2010

      • Motion to accept. Ed Heierman, Elaine Ayers

        • Against: 0; Abstain: 1; In Favor: 11



  • Co-Chair Election Update

    • Based on the motion of 21-Oct-2010 that the co-chairs would agree to a separation of elections, Patrick Loyd and Hans Buitendijk’s positions will open January 2011, while Austin Kreisler’s and Rob Hausam’s positions will open in May 2011



  • Project Statements

    • Dietary –

      • We reviewed the project statement provided by Margaret Dittloff and Elaine Ayers.

      • Attached is the project statement with various notes made during the discussion.

    • CIC - http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/1597/7689/HL7ProjectScopeStatementEMSDMIMandISOct2010b_clean.doc

      • We did not review this project statement.



  • Composite Order / Behavioral Model Update

    • Alpha Closure Review

      • Lynn Laakso is scheduling an interview with project leadership to understand learnings/findings to date.

      • Patrick will represent OO and will then give an update to OO (next week).

    • After “closure” the project will be reframed into new project framework.



  • V2.7 Recirculation Ballot

    • Based on feedback from Don Lloyd, there is no expectation that the V2.7 ballot results will be appealed, therefore expecting a final publishing date soon.



  • Order and Observation Queries for Educational Materials

    • We pointed to the e-mail request for any examples of queries for orders or observations and thanked those who provided some (Rob Savage, Rene Spronk).



  • V2.8 Proposal

    • http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=OO_CR004-606_Message_Pairs - Publishing is seeking input.

      • InM needs to introduce definition/scope of the interaction model being portrayed.

      • V2 dynamic model would find interactions that V3 does not have.

      • May involve further conformance.

      • How far do we go this, in particular with order control codes and a full flow / state changes.

      • Today there are implied interactions and this proposal would make them more explicit and drives disambiguation.

      • Requires more work. Not trivial.

      • We may be able to tap into V2 focused volunteers, but do not want to divert V3 resources.

      • Needs to be prioritized against, e.g., Composite Order.



      • Move to feedback following summary: In principle valuable and good idea, but without clear scope and anticipated resource requirements, not sure whether we can take this on. Austin, Rob Savage. Against: 0; Abstain: 0; In Favor: 13.



  • Blood Bank Project Update

    • Vetted vocabulary with Vocab who did not like it.

    • Updated proposal is in review and will then go back to Vocab.

    • After that we’ll come to OO to finalize.

    • IG not for another 3 weeks.

Future:

  • 4-Nov-2010 - Test Compendium Ballot Reconciliation





  • 4-Nov-2010 - V2.8 Proposals

    • http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=OO_CR036-657_Additional_Result_Status



  • 11-Nov-2010 – Observation Date/Time – Tom de Jong



  • 11-Nov-2010 – V2.8 Proposals

    • http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=OO_CR037-658_Timing_Quantity_Fix



  • TBD - Continue with Composite Order Ballot Reconciliation




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