Nec / rp500 Task Force & iag meeting




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MINUTES

API SPRING MEETING

RP-500 / NEC / IAG TASK FORCE

APRIL 27, 2009

GRAND HYATT HOTEL

DENVER, COLORADO

NEC / RP500 Task Force & IAG Meeting




ATTENDEES







NAME
COMPANY
E-MAIL

M

Mark Goodman

Jacobs Engineering

Mark.Goodman@jacobs.com

M

Paul Hamer

Chevron Energy Tech

paulhamer@chevron.com

M

Victor Minak

ExxonMobil

Victor.Minak@exxonmobil.com

M

Lin Duquette

Alliance Pipeline

Lin.duquette@alliance-pipeline.com

M

Art Neubauer

Arseal Technologies

neubaueras@aol.com

M

Dave Burns

Shell Exploration

Dave.burns@shell.com

S

Gordon Robertson

API

robertsong@api.org

V

C. Blake Hebert

Exxon Mobil Devel

c.blake.hebert@exxonmobil.com

V

Daniel Adjetey

BP E&P

Daniel.Adjetey@bp.com


Task Force Roster


The Task Force roster was reviewed and information updated. Changes to the roster were identified and discussed. Norb Klekowski has retired from BP. Jim Cospolich has retired from W S Nelson (he has indicated an interest to remain involved with the work of the TF). There has been a request for C. Blake Hebert of Exxon-Mobil Development Co (upstream) to join the Task Force. Similarly, there has been a request for Daniel Adjetey of BP E&P to join the Task Force. A copy of rev 36, 4/28/09 is attached to the end of these minutes.
IAG (Interdepartmental Advisory Group)

IAG functions:

Coordinating the views and requirements of the API Refining, Transportation and Production groups into a single API position, including inputs to NFPA and other standards bodies.

Providing responses to technical inquiries to the API Electrical Standards and Recommended Practices.

The IAG membership was also reviewed. The general rules previously established were: membership will include members representing Refining, Transportation, and Production, NEC Panel 14 Principle will be IAG Chair (Goodman- Refining); NEC Panel 14 Alternate is IAG Vice Chair (Burns- Production), Other members: NEC Panel 11 Principle (Hamer), SOEE Chair (Barrios), NFPA 496, 497, 499 Principle (Open, API membership on these NFPA committees was rejected by NFPA due to panel makeup. NFPA 70E Principle & IEEE liaison (Hamer), NFPA 780 (Victor Minak). Ad hoc - Transportation (Art Neubauer Arseal Technologies formerly of Colonial Pipeline and Lin Duquette of Alliance Pipeline), Ad hoc – Production (Jim Cospolich of WS Nelson (retired)).
The proposal from the Spring 2004 meeting to minimize duplication and simplify the meeting arrangements has resulted in the combination of the RP 500 TF and the IAG groups into a single group. From a practical standpoint, the two meetings were repetitive and IAG members not on the SOEE TF typically attended the TF meetings anyway. Organizationally, it was proposed that the Vice Chair of the TF would be the Vice Chair of the IAG. Otherwise, the functions of the groups would remain essentially the same. Voting for proposals for the purpose of API positions would be limited to the IAG members within the Task Force.

Review of Fall Meeting 2008 Minutes

The minutes to the RP 500/NEC Task Force and IAG meeting held in Cincinnati, Ohio, September 19, 2008 were reviewed in detail. The minutes were accepted. (motion – Dave, second Lin, Unanimous).



RP 500 and RP505 Inquiries and Responses


There were no new inquiries received from API since the last meeting. All previous inquiry items are closed.


RP 500 and RP 505 Revision Cycle


Both RP 500 and RP 505 were reaffirmed (11/2002). The next revision for both documents was targeted for release in November 2007 and the TF work on these revisions was initiated at the Fall 2004 meeting. Present schedule for RP 500, depending on ballot comments and responses, is November 2009. Similar to the last full revision of the documents, RP 500 will be revised first and the changes made incorporated into RP 505.

The ballot for API RP 500 Third Edition was released on 12/17/08 with a closing date of 2/27/09.

Results of the ballot:

21 responses to the 25 ballots with 19 affirmatives. 1 negative, 1 abstention, and 4 no votes.

Affirmative/total ballots = 76% (greater than 50% is required);

Approval Rate, Affirmatives /affirmatives + negatives = 95% (greater than 67% required)

Numerous comments were submitted and the TF began the process of addressing each comment using the 55 page API Ballot Comments and Resolution form received from API. For convenience, each comment was assigned an item number for identification.
Comments addressed at this meeting included:

Art Neubauer’s comments (all) including successful resolution of the only negative ballot submitted.

Dan Eaton’s comments (all)

Loraine Padden’s comments (all)

Jim Cospolich’s comments (all)

Paul Hamer’s comments (all)

Estellio Rangel Jr comments (approx 20%)

Daniel Adjetey’s comments (approx 10%)


It was determined that none of the corrections or clarifications made in the document as a result of the comments was considered “substantive” to the balloted document.
It was proposed that a follow–up phone/video conference be arranged to resolve the remaining comments: Estellio Rangel Jr, Daniel Adjetey, Royce King, Richard Virgilio, and Louis Barrios. Alternatively, the remaining comments could be discussed and resolved at the Fall 2009 meeting in Anaheim.


NEC (NFPA 70)

The items submitted for the 2011 National Electrical Code were briefly discussed. The Report on Proposals will be issued in June or July, so the status of several of the proposals are not known at this time.

API Proposal for allowable voltage level for unshielded cables. Proposal to return to requirements of 2002 table 310.63 with two columns 2001 – 5000 Volts (180 mils insulation thickness) vs 2008 Table 310.13D with 2400 Volt column only. Proposal status unknown.
Misprint in Article 515 Table 515.3 requiring extent of classified area to be “level of top of tank” when it should be “level of top of dike wall” to be consistent with NFPA 30 Chapter 8. Status: Mark had this correction made as a Panel 14 Panel Proposal which was accepted by the panel.
Coke Dusts Group F rating per NEC and NFPA 499 if total entrapped volatiles are greater than 8%. Proposal by Mark (not API) to add a FPN to indicate that 8% “rule” is not always valid and to allow testing as a method to determine non-combustibility. Status: Panel 14 Accept in Part. The statement that 8% rule is not always valid was removed since this would be in conflict with NFPA 499, the principle code making panel on this subject (note: a proposal should be made to NFPA 499 to initiate change). Testing as an alternate method was accepted.
Proposal to update the publish date for RP 500 to 2009 in section 500.4 (B) FPN No.2. Status: Panel 14 voted to remove all publication dates for referenced documents in Fine Print Notes as unnecessary.
Report on Proposals to be reviewed for any potential impact to API upon release. Suggested API Comments to be included as an agenda item for the Fall meeting. Comments are to be submitted to NFPA by October 23, 2009

NFPA 70E


New document has been issued. Proposals for the next revision to NFPA 70E are due January 5, 2010. Paul indicated that he planned on stepping down from the Principle voting member role for the next cycle with Louis Barrios assuming that role.

Next Meetings


API Fall meeting in Anaheim, California, is scheduled for RP 500 to meet 8:00 AM– 5:00 PM on Friday September 11, 2009. SOEE to meet Saturday September 12, 2009 from 8:00 AM to noon.

Adjournment


Motion to adjourn by Vic, Lin second, Unanimous.


API RP500 / NEC

TASK FORCE / INTERDEPARTMENTAL ADVISORY GROUP

ROSTER AND MAILING LIST

SOEE Members




Mark Goodman, Chairman

Jacobs Engineering Group

1500 Hughes Way, Pod A Suite200

Long Beach, CA 90810

Office 310-847-2643

Fax: 310-847-2699

E-Mail: mark.goodman@jacobs.com


Paul S. Hamer, Vice Chairman TF

Chevron Energy Technology Co.

100 Chevron Way

P. O. Box 1627

Richmond, CA 94802-0627

510-242-7224

Fax: 510-242-7222

E-Mail: paulhamer@chevron.com




L. Ballard

Crouse Hinds

Wolf & 7th North Streets

P. O. Box 4999

Syracuse, NY 13221

315-477-5255

Fax: 315-477-5118

E-Mail: lon.ballard@cooperindustries.com




Louis Barrios - SOEE Chair

Shell Global Solutions Inc.

Westhollow Technology Center

3333 Highway 6 South

Houston, TX 77082-3101

281-544-8054

Fax: 281-544-7705

E-Mail: Louis.Barrios@shell.com



Rick Mendler

ConocoPhillips

PO Box 866

Sweeny, Texas 77480

979-491-2322

Fax:


E-Mail: rick.mendler@ConocoPhillips.com


Victor Minak

ExxonMobil

3225 Gallows Road

Fairfax, VA 22037

703-846-7449

Fax: 703-846-7906

E-Mail: victor.minak@exxonmobil.com


Lorraine K. Padden

Padden Engineering, LLC

P.O. Box 5745

Katy, TX 77491

281-579-6550

Fax: 281-579-6586

E-Mail: paddeneng@aol.com


R. J. Virgilio

Foster Wheeler North America

Perryville Corporate Park

Clinton, NJ 08809-4000

908-713-3201

Fax: 908-730-5400

E-Mail: richard_virgilio@fwc.com


Ad Hoc Members




Lin Duquette, Transportation

Alliance Pipeline

600, 605 – 5 Ave. S.W.

Calgary Alberta

Canada T2P 3H5

403-517-6306

Fax

E-Mail: Lin.duquette@alliance-pipeline.com



Art Neubauer, Transportation

Arseal Technologies, LLC

5900 Windward Pkwy

Suite 100

Alpheretta, GA 30005

678-387-1200

Fax: 678-297-9644

E-Mail: neubaueras@aol.com




Dave Burns, Production (IAG Vice Chair)

Shell Exploration and Production Co.

Unconventional Resources

777 Walker Street

Houston, TX 77002

713-241-5466

Fax: 713-241-5275

E-Mail: dave.burns@shell.com




C. Blake Hebert, Production

Exxon Mobil Development Co.

12450 Greenspoint Drive

GP6 -424


Houston, Texas 77060

281-654-8825

Fax: 281-654-1835

E-Mail: c.blake.hebert@ exxonmobil.com



Daniel Adjetey

BP E&P


501 West Lake Park Blvd

Houston, Texas 77079

281-366-8465

Fax: 281-366-0089

E-Mail: daniel.adjetey@bp.com

API


Gordon Robertson

1220 L Street, Northwest

Washington, DC 20005

202-682-8190

Fax: 202-962-4797

E-Mail: robertsong@api.org



rev 36 4/28/09


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